Some B2MeM Statistics by Zdenka
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B2MeM Prompt and Path: Meta on Fandom (orange path)
Format: I don’t know, statistics?
Genre: nonfiction, meta
Rating: n/a
Warnings: n/a
Characters: n/a
Pairings: n/a
Creator’s Notes (optional): My Wild square roll sent me to complete a prompt from the Orange Path. I’m also working on something more complicated, but it may take me some time to put all the pieces together, so in the meantime here is a quick and not very scholarly bit of fandom meta, in the hopes that some people will find it interesting or amusing. In fact, I am going to be as meta as possible and share some B2MeM-related statistics, involving the fanworks that are posted to this very community.
Summary: Ever wanted to know who the most popular B2MeM character is? Read on!
As you are probably aware, I’ve spent a lot of time with the
b2mem tags over the years, as a tagging volunteer and now as a mod, and they are near and dear to my heart. It’s been interesting to me to glance through them sometimes and see which characters or genres are most popular -- and I thought it might be interesting to others as well. As a mod/admin of the LJ community, I can sort tags alphabetically or by usage; the data in this piece come from looking at those pages. Non-mods can’t look at those, but you can look at the community tags page if desired. Anything that I say here covers five-and-a-fraction years of B2MeM from 2012 (when this LJ comm was created) to the present, but not the years before 2012. It also applies only to works that were posted to (or linked on) the b2mem LJ community; it does not include works written for B2MeM that were only posted to other places (AO3, Tumblr, etc.), or never posted at all. All statistics provided here are current as of 12:45 a.m. EST, 3/21/17.
Characters
Who is the most popular B2MeM character? Well, the most popular “character” is not a (specific) character at all: the most frequently used character tag is character:oc (316 uses). It seems B2MeM participants enjoy creating works which focus on or include original characters. I know I’ve seen a wide variety of OCs here over the years. The most popular canon character in B2MeM is one who is also very popular in fandom: Aragorn, tagged 221 times.
Here are the top ten by usage:
#1. OC: 316 uses
#2. Aragorn: 221
#3. Maglor: 141
#4. Faramir: 98
#5. Maedhros: 94
#6. Frodo: 86
#7. Sam: 74
#8. Elrond: 68
#9. Gandalf: 63
#10. Pippin: 61
-There’s a mix of Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings characters in the top ten, with LOTR slightly predominating (though of course Elrond is frequently written in both, and Gandalf could appear in a Silmarillion context as well).
-One thing that stands out to me is that all of the characters in the top ten are male. OCs can be male, female, or other (and the tag doesn’t differentiate), but no canon female characters made the top ten list. The most frequently tagged female character is Arwen, at #11, who is tagged 60 times. Merry and Fingon are tied for #12 (55 uses), Fëanor is #13 (50 uses), and then the next female character is Éowyn, who is tied with Bilbo for the #14 spot with 43 uses.
-The Hobbit movie fandom doesn’t seem to have made it into B2MeM (or vice versa) to any significant extent. The most popular character who appears only in The Hobbit book or movies and not in LOTR or the Silmarillion is Thorin Oakenshield (6 uses). Of Thorin’s company, Glóin gets 2 uses, while Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, and Fíli get 1 each. Other Hobbit book or movie characters include Thranduil (10 uses), Beorn and Smaug (3 uses each) and Bard and Tauriel (2 uses each). There is also Dís (4 uses), who isn’t mentioned by name in the Hobbit book or movies but has a significant presence in Hobbit-based fanworks in the larger fandom.
-There are also many characters who show up with a single use each, for example: Aldarion, Dior, Fimbrethil, Grishnákh, Landroval, Otho Sackville-Baggins, Pearl Took, Tevildo, Thengel, and Zamîn.
Format
Top Ten Most Popular Formats:
#1. drabble: 439 uses
#2. ficlet: 403
#3. short story: 305
#4. chaptered: 81
#5. poetry: 76
#6. art: 54
#7. digital art: 43
#8. drawing/sketch: 21
#9. vignette: 20
#10. rec list: 17
Though fanfic is by far the most popular format, art makes a showing at places #6, 7, and 8; non-fiction/meta shows up at #10.
Genre
Top Ten Most Popular Genres:
#1. gen: 410 uses
#2. drama: 160
#3. family: 128
#4. romance: 105
#5. humor: 101
#6. angst: 94
#7. character study: 88
#8. chaptered: 81
#9. poetry: 76
#10. gapfiller: 73
As you can see, gen is by far the most popular genre, with 410 uses. That matches up with my general impression of the trends in B2MeM works.
But what about works that aren’t gen? The genre tags also include the following:
-slash: 38
-het: 17
-femslash: 15
for a total of 70 tags for type of pairing.
That surprised me a lot -- I believe there is more gen, proportionately, than shipfic in B2MeM, but not to quite that large an extent! Then I thought that maybe people aren’t always tagging their shippy fic with a descriptive genre tag, and there is evidence to bear that out: the “genre:romance” tag has 105 uses, significantly more than the slash, het, and femslash tags combined. Not all fics tagged romance would necessarily fit neatly into those categories, but from what I’ve seen, most of them would. (And not all shipfic would be tagged for romance.) It seems that B2MeM participants do not tag consistently for pairing type, and therefore I don’t feel I can draw firm conclusions from the data available.
My non-scientific impression of B2MeM works is that the trend is for gen and lower-rated fanworks. There are some exceptions, however. Again, this may not be the full number, but 6 fanworks are tagged genre:pwp (plot what plot/porn without plot).
Path
For this year, so far, the paths in order of popularity:
#1. red: 45 uses
#2. purple: 40
#3. blue: 30
#4. green: 24
#5. yellow: 12
#6. orange: 8
That’s not surprising to me; the people who feel capable of producing more works over the course of the month would logically take the longer paths, and the longer paths have more prompts that fanworks can be made for.
Some number-crunching which I decided not to do
I thought about also trying to judge each year’s activity level, which would be interesting, but I ran into difficulties right away. The number of posts each year isn’t equivalent to the number of fanworks produced. There were some years where the mods made a prompt post every day, and some where they didn’t. It’s not easy to pull out the number of mod posts. There is no overarching “mod post” tag, but a different set of tags are used each year. I counted 31 different tags for mod posts over the course of B2MeM.
And then I discovered that LJ won’t give you the total number of entries per year (as far as I know) -- only the number of entries per day. I’m not interested enough to do that much arithmetic! But anyone who wants to look at those numbers can find them in the LJ comm’s archive.
I hope some of these numbers have been interesting! Feel free to comment with any additions, corrections, questions, or other thoughts.
Format: I don’t know, statistics?
Genre: nonfiction, meta
Rating: n/a
Warnings: n/a
Characters: n/a
Pairings: n/a
Creator’s Notes (optional): My Wild square roll sent me to complete a prompt from the Orange Path. I’m also working on something more complicated, but it may take me some time to put all the pieces together, so in the meantime here is a quick and not very scholarly bit of fandom meta, in the hopes that some people will find it interesting or amusing. In fact, I am going to be as meta as possible and share some B2MeM-related statistics, involving the fanworks that are posted to this very community.
Summary: Ever wanted to know who the most popular B2MeM character is? Read on!
As you are probably aware, I’ve spent a lot of time with the
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Characters
Who is the most popular B2MeM character? Well, the most popular “character” is not a (specific) character at all: the most frequently used character tag is character:oc (316 uses). It seems B2MeM participants enjoy creating works which focus on or include original characters. I know I’ve seen a wide variety of OCs here over the years. The most popular canon character in B2MeM is one who is also very popular in fandom: Aragorn, tagged 221 times.
Here are the top ten by usage:
#1. OC: 316 uses
#2. Aragorn: 221
#3. Maglor: 141
#4. Faramir: 98
#5. Maedhros: 94
#6. Frodo: 86
#7. Sam: 74
#8. Elrond: 68
#9. Gandalf: 63
#10. Pippin: 61
-There’s a mix of Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings characters in the top ten, with LOTR slightly predominating (though of course Elrond is frequently written in both, and Gandalf could appear in a Silmarillion context as well).
-One thing that stands out to me is that all of the characters in the top ten are male. OCs can be male, female, or other (and the tag doesn’t differentiate), but no canon female characters made the top ten list. The most frequently tagged female character is Arwen, at #11, who is tagged 60 times. Merry and Fingon are tied for #12 (55 uses), Fëanor is #13 (50 uses), and then the next female character is Éowyn, who is tied with Bilbo for the #14 spot with 43 uses.
-The Hobbit movie fandom doesn’t seem to have made it into B2MeM (or vice versa) to any significant extent. The most popular character who appears only in The Hobbit book or movies and not in LOTR or the Silmarillion is Thorin Oakenshield (6 uses). Of Thorin’s company, Glóin gets 2 uses, while Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, and Fíli get 1 each. Other Hobbit book or movie characters include Thranduil (10 uses), Beorn and Smaug (3 uses each) and Bard and Tauriel (2 uses each). There is also Dís (4 uses), who isn’t mentioned by name in the Hobbit book or movies but has a significant presence in Hobbit-based fanworks in the larger fandom.
-There are also many characters who show up with a single use each, for example: Aldarion, Dior, Fimbrethil, Grishnákh, Landroval, Otho Sackville-Baggins, Pearl Took, Tevildo, Thengel, and Zamîn.
Format
Top Ten Most Popular Formats:
#1. drabble: 439 uses
#2. ficlet: 403
#3. short story: 305
#4. chaptered: 81
#5. poetry: 76
#6. art: 54
#7. digital art: 43
#8. drawing/sketch: 21
#9. vignette: 20
#10. rec list: 17
Though fanfic is by far the most popular format, art makes a showing at places #6, 7, and 8; non-fiction/meta shows up at #10.
Genre
Top Ten Most Popular Genres:
#1. gen: 410 uses
#2. drama: 160
#3. family: 128
#4. romance: 105
#5. humor: 101
#6. angst: 94
#7. character study: 88
#8. chaptered: 81
#9. poetry: 76
#10. gapfiller: 73
As you can see, gen is by far the most popular genre, with 410 uses. That matches up with my general impression of the trends in B2MeM works.
But what about works that aren’t gen? The genre tags also include the following:
-slash: 38
-het: 17
-femslash: 15
for a total of 70 tags for type of pairing.
That surprised me a lot -- I believe there is more gen, proportionately, than shipfic in B2MeM, but not to quite that large an extent! Then I thought that maybe people aren’t always tagging their shippy fic with a descriptive genre tag, and there is evidence to bear that out: the “genre:romance” tag has 105 uses, significantly more than the slash, het, and femslash tags combined. Not all fics tagged romance would necessarily fit neatly into those categories, but from what I’ve seen, most of them would. (And not all shipfic would be tagged for romance.) It seems that B2MeM participants do not tag consistently for pairing type, and therefore I don’t feel I can draw firm conclusions from the data available.
My non-scientific impression of B2MeM works is that the trend is for gen and lower-rated fanworks. There are some exceptions, however. Again, this may not be the full number, but 6 fanworks are tagged genre:pwp (plot what plot/porn without plot).
Path
For this year, so far, the paths in order of popularity:
#1. red: 45 uses
#2. purple: 40
#3. blue: 30
#4. green: 24
#5. yellow: 12
#6. orange: 8
That’s not surprising to me; the people who feel capable of producing more works over the course of the month would logically take the longer paths, and the longer paths have more prompts that fanworks can be made for.
Some number-crunching which I decided not to do
I thought about also trying to judge each year’s activity level, which would be interesting, but I ran into difficulties right away. The number of posts each year isn’t equivalent to the number of fanworks produced. There were some years where the mods made a prompt post every day, and some where they didn’t. It’s not easy to pull out the number of mod posts. There is no overarching “mod post” tag, but a different set of tags are used each year. I counted 31 different tags for mod posts over the course of B2MeM.
And then I discovered that LJ won’t give you the total number of entries per year (as far as I know) -- only the number of entries per day. I’m not interested enough to do that much arithmetic! But anyone who wants to look at those numbers can find them in the LJ comm’s archive.
I hope some of these numbers have been interesting! Feel free to comment with any additions, corrections, questions, or other thoughts.
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Date: 2017-03-22 01:56 am (UTC)Speaking as the genre tagger, gen is definitely skewed, largely because I tend to use it as a catch-all category if romance isn't the focus and/or if I couldn't see another appropriate tag. (I try not to listen gen alone if I need to decide on genre, though. What other people do is up to them and I don't add more tags than what they list in the form.) So a fic may have brief Aragorn/Arwen, but the plot is Faramir and Aragorn, I'll tag it gen rather than het. The het/femslash/slash categories I usually use for fanworks that center on those relationships. And all of that presupposes I need to come up with the genre rather than using what people have already listed.
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Date: 2017-03-22 03:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-22 08:27 am (UTC)I do think, as a subjective impression, there may be quite a number of female characters among the OCs.
And I think people may have become a bit less prone to using type of pairing as a genre category than they used to, especially as the header specifies pairing anyway.
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Date: 2017-03-22 04:49 pm (UTC)Yes, I think so too. I would even guess that there have been more female OCs than male ones, but I wouldn't venture to state the exact proportions.
And I think people may have become a bit less prone to using type of pairing as a genre category than they used to, especially as the header specifies pairing anyway.
Hmm, that may be true. It is true that the header specifies pairings and so tagging for pairing type isn't necessary to convey that information. I'd guess that it also depends on when and where people started in fandom and the habits they developed. My first fandom archive was AO3, which has pairing type prominently listed in the posting form, so I just got used to adding that info to all my fics, and now I do it out of habit even when I'm not on AO3. But not everyone does that.
In case it's not clear, I wasn't trying to suggest that people should tag for pairing type -- I have no opinion on whether they do or don't. I was just looking at the numbers.
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Date: 2017-03-22 08:15 pm (UTC)What I said about possible shifts in attitude was motivated by my familiarity with SWG, which revised tagging for slash some time ago, so that tagging for the slash genre (and the het genre, also) applies when the fic focuses on the ship. So slash and het pairings that are not the main focus are less likely to be tagged as genre by anyone who has taken that particular policy change on board, although they can of course be indicated in the summary (as opposed to the tagging) and they often are.
AO3 does not really tag for genre at all, do they (just optional free-form tags), although they do tag both for pairing and pairing type as distinct categories.
As for B2MeM, the pairing information in the header is obligatory, not optional as on AO3, the pairing information is therefore always there or should be (and the character's genders are mostly known, I suppose), but the header is obviously less searchable for statistical purposes than the tags.
So both is a factor here: what people think "genre" means (and whether they think slash is one) as well as what they think should be tagged--and what information they think needs to be given (regardless of category or tagging) may be another thing again.
Sorry--that is a very long-winded response!
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Date: 2017-03-23 02:46 am (UTC)No need to apologize for being long-winded! I agree with everything you've said here, and it makes sense.
Having come to fandom through AO3, I often feel confused when I'm asked to assign genres to my fic, as on MPTT or SWG, and my mind goes blank. Having gen or pairing type as a "genre" is a relief to me, because it's simple and unambiguous -- if I can't figure out what would be appropriate, I just check off gen or pairing type and then I'm done. But that's my own brain's particular hang-ups.
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Date: 2017-03-23 08:12 am (UTC)My memory of this has gone just a bit fuzzy, but I think what happened was that the slash warning tag was automatically converted to a slash genre tag. Authors were invited to take the slash genre tag off, if they thought it didn't fit, and alerted that it would not be an archive requirement to warn for reference to homosexual relationships in the future.
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Date: 2017-03-23 02:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-24 07:38 am (UTC)I believe Dawn said at the time that she'd never really liked adopting that warning but had felt that in the climate in Tolkien fandom when she started out it was unavoidable if she wanted to avoid friction.
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Date: 2017-03-24 12:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-24 08:56 pm (UTC)My recall of this might be very self-centered.
At that time, the only relationship that would have concerned me would have been Maedhros/Fingon, because anything else in my fics was strictly gen.
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Date: 2017-03-24 11:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-22 11:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-22 04:43 pm (UTC)On the other hand, one of the main groups participating is MPTT/lotr-community, which is gen-focused. So there is likely more gen here than elsewhere.
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Date: 2017-03-22 04:58 pm (UTC)It seems B2MeM attracts a different kind of writer to mainstream fanfic
That's one possibility. It's also possible that writers who usually write shipfic or porn are less likely to write those works for B2MeM, for whatever reasons.
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Date: 2017-03-22 02:52 pm (UTC)Thank you for this extremely interesting meta post! :)
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Date: 2017-03-22 04:38 pm (UTC)The het/femslash/slash tags I only add if I'm the one deciding what tags go on the fanwork, mainly when the genre field is left blank. I only add those tags when the fanwork centers on the relationship. If the relationship is background-only, I mostly use gen under the principle that if background het is treated as gen, so should background slash.
If people write slash relationships but don't list slash in the header field and don't tag slash, then I don't add the slash tag. People decide what they want to put in the genre field in the header; what's there is literally all I will list in the tags. I don't want to take the risk of adding something that the poster may not want there or see as accurate.
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Date: 2017-03-22 05:07 pm (UTC)I'm always happy to encourage more writing about female characters! (And if you find that it inspires you to have prompts, Legendarium Ladies April takes place on Tumblr next month: http://legendariumladiesapril.tumblr.com/)
I'm glad you found it interesting!
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Date: 2017-03-24 01:17 am (UTC)Thanks so much for that link! I would love to contribute to that challenge (and I write best IMO when responding to prompts).
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Date: 2017-03-24 02:01 am (UTC)You're very welcome. I hope you enjoy it if you participate. I think it's a neat event.
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Date: 2017-03-22 04:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-22 05:12 pm (UTC)There have been many excellent B2MeM works created for female canon characters, but it seems male canon characters are more popular. If you look at the comm tags beginning with character:, you can get the full list.
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Date: 2017-03-22 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-23 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-23 03:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-23 04:12 am (UTC)Yes, I just checked and she's tied with Pippin now for #10. We'll have to see where the ranking stands at the end of the month!
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Date: 2017-03-23 07:42 pm (UTC)- Erulisse (one L)
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Date: 2017-03-23 08:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-24 01:43 am (UTC)Some of my thoughts ...
Thank you for sharing this! It was the most fun I've had reading a B2MeM entry in a while. (I'm such a data nerd! ^_^)
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Date: 2017-03-24 02:20 am (UTC)I consider myself part of the AO3/fic exchanges crowd, though I'm not on Tumblr. But I also have a very wide range of interests, so I do a little bit of everything in terms of characters/sources/pairing types. I don't know how common or uncommon that is in fandom generally.
I don't think of "porn" as a pejorative in a fandom context; I was using the word sort of loosely to mean works containing explicit and erotic sex scenes, whether they have plot and characterization in addition to the sex or not. It's not something I'm any good at writing (and I am primarily a genficcer at heart), but I have no objections to it.
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Date: 2017-03-24 06:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-24 07:17 pm (UTC)Plus writing in that world from a perspective other than the heroes is always fun.
I agree! And I think Middle-earth is a great world for OCs.
I'm glad it was interesting to you!