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In order to comply with the April 3, 2017 LiveJournal User Agreement that says users must mark material "estimated by Russian legislation as inappropriate for children (0-18) as 'adult material,'" we have marked this community as containing Explicit Adult Content. The vast majority of the entries are and will continue to be safe for minors to view; we are simply being cautious because we-the-mods cannot edit the adult content settings on individual posts.

If you are older than 18 and logged in, your experience will not change. If you are younger than 18 and logged in, you will not be allowed to join or view the community. If you are logged out, you will only be able to view the community’s content after confirming you are over 18 on an intermediate banner page (it’s a simple button click). We welcome anonymous comments if you want to participate.

We are both sorry and angry at the idea of excluding minors. B2MeM has always and will always welcome everyone's participation. Please, please use anonymous comments if you want to participate.

We do NOT agree with the new User Agreement. This was not a change we wanted to make, but given the circumstances, we felt it best to make this change to protect our members and the existence of this community. We do not know precisely what could be covered under this agreement and do not want to risk this community's deletion.

The mods are discussing how to keep B2MeM safe and what the future could look like. If you have questions or concerns, please comment or contact us at

Date: 2017-04-06 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
That makes perfect sense to me that B2MeM as a community/public LJ, it must take such precautions to avoid stupid legal entanglements.

Most of the adult content on the internet is produced by its younger users. It's just another way for LJ to use to go after people they do not like for other reasons--and we all know what they are!

Too bad about that. I did not even see that is the agreement-because as an individual, I ignore adult warnings.

I'm not changing my settings as an individual. I friend-lock almost everything and don't really post adult material all that often, if ever. As a person I have one setting. And am a risk-taker. I will take a risk on dying in a Russian prison, given the rents in Brooklyn and how stressful it is around my house it would probably not be that bad of a deal for me.
Edited Date: 2017-04-06 09:22 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-08 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I don't see that it will be worse than an inconvenience for most people. I am beyond considering it a principled question in this kind of a setting. I don't like censorship, but LJ is not a private space and not under our control. And this particular journal has a responsibility to its users who are very diverse, so an advisory note and explanation seems more than adequate here to me. (Not that I have any business having an opinion--laughing at myself--I am a bit of loose cannon! That's why I have never offered to be an SWG or B2MeM mod!)

Date: 2017-04-09 01:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-06 09:33 pm (UTC)
hhimring: (Tolkien)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
That's a pity but very understandable.

Date: 2017-04-07 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
First, it seems like simple good sense to add this in light of the new ToS.

I know I never post stories, and I haven't been around for ages, but maybe this change can be a trigger to start a migration to DW.

Just a thought.

Date: 2017-04-07 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I posted in the wrong place before but just wanted to say, I think this is the wise thing to do. It's sad that others can force this but you have to do what you can to protect the posts.

Date: 2017-04-07 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Better to be safe than sorry in this case.

Loved being part of B2MeM last month. A great friendly bunch of creative folk.

I quite understand the move.

Date: 2017-04-08 03:04 am (UTC)
ladybrooke: (Maid Maleen)
From: [personal profile] ladybrooke
This is...ugh. Just ugh.

I share the worry mentioned above that anything LBGTQ+ counts as adult under Russian law, regardless of content. The Sims 4 was given an 18+ rating there, apparently because of it, so I'm not sure fanfic is different.

Date: 2017-04-12 12:31 am (UTC)
ladybrooke: (Maid Maleen)
From: [personal profile] ladybrooke
Thanks for adding a link about it! And yeah, I don't think fanfic would be different - and I don't know if this community is big enough to attract attention, but on the other hand, a couple of my stories hit the top 100 English posts like month...

I'll sit patiently while you all figure out what to do. If it makes even difference, while I'm not about to delete stories I've already posted, I'm extremely hesitant to post any future writing here (and I've got a couple stories done from last month's event, but...)


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