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B2MeM Challenge: ‘There is a modern-day archaeological discovery that ties in with Elves and proves they did exist (in the manner of finding King Tut or Richard III). Of course, there still a few elves still living... somewhere. They're just super-talented at not being noticed.’ - Samtyr
Format: Ficlet, drawing
Genre: Gen, epistolary, experimental
Rating: G
Warnings: Osteological geekery? Also, large embedded image.
Characters: OFC, mystery character
Pairings: n/a
Creators' Notes (optional): I am not sure that this fulfills all aspects of Samtyr’s very inspired prompt. My initial reading of the prompt focused on the evidence itself and not quite so much the possible ramifications for any of the Eldar who still linger among us.
Dear taggers - no, I do not want that character tagged. =)
Dear readers - if the image is too large to see properly on the community page, clicking on the image should take you to the full version.
Summary: Two academics discuss a recently-excavated prehistoric skeleton.



Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 05:28:04
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

Actually, I tried the tea and I still couldn’t sleep. Instead I continued to pore over the data, drew up some new diagrams for the layperson, and also tripped over the cat [he’s still mad at me] and am the more convinced of my rightness.

I think I should hand my diagrams out at the next faculty meeting!

Y/N?

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:19:32
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

I’d reconsider that after sleeping on it (I trust you are currently sleeping now, and not lurking about in some café on your third mocha with a manic grin on your face).

Your data is intriguing, but you have very little support.


Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:46:53
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

It’s only my second mocha. Give me some credit Mac.

Maybe you’re right. But you didn’t see this thing! the conclusions are very obvious, at least to an osteologist. All right so maybe what I need to do is present the data (that’s data ARE intriguing btw) at the conference, plenty of exposure so someone is bound to see the light.

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:04:08
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

Peer review. I thought you physical anthropologists were all about cruel scathing soul-rending peer review before presenting stuff.


Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:08:22
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

Yes and let’s just say it won’t pass muster because my staid and honorable peers mistake my assertions for some kind of whimsical supernaturalistic mumbo-jumbo. One anonymous reviewer said and I quote: “Laganà has been reading too many fantasy novels.”

I should just leaflet at the conference tomorrow!

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:12:00
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

NO.


Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:12:47
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

Why not

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:17:31
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

Because that will make you look precisely like the sort of crackpot you don’t wish to be construed as? Then perhaps the Museum won’t let you back to see the bones again?

For pity’s sake do get some sleep before making any decisions on this.


Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:29:06
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

You know, you’re probably right. Not sure why you took such a keen interest in this research if you’re so eager to shut me down, but I guess someone has to do it.

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:37:26
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

I want to “shut you down” precisely because it’s interesting. Don’t try and do anything with it until it can be credible to others.


Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:09:48
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Attachment: DOGGERLAND SKULL SUTURE CLOSURE FOR DUMMIES.PNG

Thanks, Mac, I probably wouldn’t have lasted this long if my colleagues didn’t sometimes reel me back in.

But just have a look at the simplified thing I made last night. The ramifications! I’m not rabid about this for nothing!

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University



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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:44:13
From: maclaa@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: lagank@hinteru.edu

That’s really fascinating, Kass!

As you know, my understanding of the subject matter is pretty limited so it’s difficult for me to offer comments. However…and I’m not saying there could not have existed a long-lived species such as this! In fact, you make a compelling argument for it…however, if I understand the suture closure thing correctly, I would doubt that any of these proposed long-lived human beings would still be alive today. I mean, would the bone keep growing after the sutures were fully closed? Wouldn’t their skulls get too thick and heavy or possibly the bone would intrude on their brain? Maybe there is a reason this proposed being is evidently extinct.

In any case, I am as ever impressed by your extensive knowledge and innovative hypotheses. Please keep me updated.

Aiken Maclaren, PhD
Associate Professor of Ethnomusicology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 04:43:27
From: lagank@hinteru.edu
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doggerland Skull
To: maclaa@hinteru.edu

Thanks for having a look. An animal whose skull kept ossifying to the point of endangering its brain would be selected against obviously. So yes, either it would have died out, OR: ossification does not continue after complete suture closure. I don’t see why it would [continue]! That’s not the way it works in healthy individuals of any species that I know of.

Would you believe I slept 12 hrs? Off to class soon, I’m showing Intro that video today that at least one person inevitably gets righteously offended by. Have fun at the orchestra flash mob thingy.

Kassandra Laganà, PhD
Professor of Osteology and Archaeology
Department of Anthropology
Hinterlands State University

Date: 2015-03-16 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindahoyland.livejournal.com
What a fascinating idea, I enjoyed this.Very clever and well thought out. People don't seem to be sticking slavishly to the prompts if some other responses are any indication. You made this very convincing.
Edited Date: 2015-03-16 03:19 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-03-16 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayleelupin.livejournal.com
Oooh, I love it! You've convinced me!

Date: 2015-03-16 03:45 am (UTC)
moetushie: Beaton cartoon - a sexy revolution. (Default)
From: [personal profile] moetushie
And Kassandra gets a surprise visit from Dr. Caleb Orne, noted plant biologist, and his associate/grandson Elroy Here, right? ;)

This is an awesome take on a great prompt!

Date: 2015-03-16 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
She so should!

Date: 2015-03-16 04:47 am (UTC)
dreamflower: gandalf at bag end (Default)
From: [personal profile] dreamflower
And of course, "Aiken Maclaren, ethnomusicologist" would not possibly have any ulterior motives for discouraging his friend from making her findings public? ;^)

This is brilliant!

Date: 2015-03-16 05:01 am (UTC)
zdenka: An old map with the site of Troy. (language)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
Ahaha! Poor Kassandra, telling the truth and not believed! ;) I suspected who maclaa must be from his email address, but he will remain He Who Shall Not Be Tagged. (Sorry, it's late and that makes me silly.)

And those are great diagrams!

Date: 2015-03-16 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] binkaslibrary.livejournal.com
Ohhh, very clever! Wonderful response to the prompt :D Thank you!

Date: 2015-03-16 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com
I love this. Of course the sutures would completely disappear over time whilst the teeth would remain in good condition in an individual designed for extreme longevity.

Dr McLaren may not wish to have his skull X rayed for a comparison though....

Date: 2015-03-16 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] engarian.livejournal.com
Love bringing Physical Anthro into the mix here, and the interplay of text messages worked really well. Love the diagrams and the logic behind this, too.

- Erulisse (one L)

Date: 2015-03-16 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyelleth.livejournal.com
Haaaa, perfect! Also, words can't my delight about Doggerland. :D Now I'm wondering... Storegga tsunami = sinking of Beleriand? And did [character] know the skull's owner? Methinks they need to find someone to make a facial reconstruction.

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Date: 2015-03-16 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samtyr.livejournal.com
This is just wonderful! Perfect, even. I love how you combined the texts and the sketch & notes; it all makes a very plausible theory, even if more research needs to be done. I'm hoping that there will be more 'bones' to be discovered. :)

Date: 2015-03-16 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zopyrus.livejournal.com
I thought this was a great execution of the prompt--any more detail about Kassandra's mysterious friend would have been distracting, so I'm glad you kept him on the margins. I liked the science, too--I didn't know that about bone sutures and your explanation of what might happen to an elf skull over time seemed plausible to me!

Also, I loled at the orchestra flash mob line.

Date: 2015-03-16 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzll.livejournal.com
Oh, this is FABULOUS :D

Date: 2015-03-16 03:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shirebound
So clever! This is delightful.

Date: 2015-03-16 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com
Ha! No, you clearly have not considered the ramifications for any remaining Elves, AT ALL.

I am not sure why "long lived humanoids" should be considered such a crackpot idea, though. Especially given the evidence...

Date: 2015-03-17 12:21 am (UTC)
hhimring: Tolkien's monogram (Tolkien)
From: [personal profile] hhimring
Excellent!
Maybe Professor Maclaren is thinking of some particular thick-sculled individuals, whose bone may have intruded on their brains and led to the (near-)extinction of their race?

Date: 2015-03-17 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbrow.livejournal.com
This was great! Love the hints at Maclaren's identity - orchestra flash mob indeed!

Date: 2015-03-17 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelica-ramses.livejournal.com
What an original story - both in the form and in the content! And perfectly executed.

Associate Professor of Ethnomusicology attending orchestra flash mobs indeed! :D

Date: 2015-03-18 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] independence1776
EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! I love everything about this story! The explanations, the characters, the drawing, the format-- everything.

One of the reasons I love modern day fic so much is the possibility of people discovering the Elves and the consequences, and how the Elves try to keep hidden. And this story approaches it from both that angle and the scientific one. So I'm very, very happy right now.

Date: 2015-03-19 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lynndyre.livejournal.com
This is fascinating and makes me want so many facets of science applied to Middle Earth history - Awesome idea, especially the skull presentation!

Date: 2015-03-19 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blslarner.livejournal.com
Oh, the latent archaeologist in me is fascinated already! Cool--way cool! Love it!

Date: 2015-03-20 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybluerose1990.livejournal.com
This is a great idea! Although I wonder since Elves mature more quickly than humans at a young age if some of the sutures would fuse early. Maybe sagittal fusion begins earlier? (*asks the physical anthropology student*) Anyway awesome story and love how it’s formatted as a bunch of email exchanges.
Edited Date: 2015-03-20 10:38 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-03-22 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ladybrooke
Yeesssssssssss! This is awesome, Huin. :D I'm so glad you bought this prompt to write.

(And yay for the untagged character. :D He's awesome here).

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